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favoritetraitor ([personal profile] favoritetraitor) wrote2009-06-06 08:48 pm

41st Devotion: Contemplating the Past

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Is there such a thing as redemption for the past? Can a person ever progress beyond what life has handed them? Or are they forever stained beyond any hope of forgiveness of their circumstances...

An idle thought, but one which I would be interested in hearing others opinions about...

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Mr. Fujimiya, I'd like to order a bouquet of Red Tulips to be sent to the following address.

[identity profile] cal-sitter.livejournal.com 2009-06-07 03:00 am (UTC)(link)
That's dependent on the circumstances and those in a position to forgive, isn't it?

[identity profile] favoritetraitor.livejournal.com 2009-06-07 03:10 am (UTC)(link)
Yes, I suppose you're right. I fear this is one of those 'unanswerable' questions... there would always be far too many factors for there to be an easy answer.
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[identity profile] cal-sitter.livejournal.com 2009-06-07 03:12 am (UTC)(link)
Unfortunately, that's been my experience.

[identity profile] favoritetraitor.livejournal.com 2009-06-07 03:19 am (UTC)(link)
Do you believe in redemption, Mr....?

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[identity profile] nogoodpeople.livejournal.com 2009-06-07 03:14 am (UTC)(link)
There is no easy answer to that.

[identity profile] favoritetraitor.livejournal.com 2009-06-07 03:17 am (UTC)(link)
Yes... I suppose philosophers have spent their whole lives debating such questions, and yet... died without ever finding the answers they were looking for...

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[identity profile] favoritetraitor.livejournal.com 2009-06-07 03:39 am (UTC)(link)
Could you please address them to Saya Otonashi?

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[identity profile] valentineluke.livejournal.com 2009-06-07 03:52 am (UTC)(link)
History books seem to dictate otherwise.

[identity profile] favoritetraitor.livejournal.com 2009-06-07 04:00 am (UTC)(link)
Indeed. I've seen it so many times before... but there are always exceptions...

[identity profile] valentineluke.livejournal.com 2009-06-07 04:10 am (UTC)(link)
It's been said second chances are possible in this world.

[identity profile] horrible-phd.livejournal.com 2009-06-07 04:07 am (UTC)(link)
I think...I used to think people pretty much had set paths, had to do the best with whatever they had, whatever they were. Now, I guess I think it's possible to choose another path.

[identity profile] favoritetraitor.livejournal.com 2009-06-07 04:41 am (UTC)(link)
Any particular reason for your change of heart on the matter?
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[identity profile] horrible-phd.livejournal.com 2009-06-07 07:03 pm (UTC)(link)
Being here, I guess--and having my friend Penny around. I mean, I think it's given me some perspective. Especially having friends who challenged me to think about what I was doing and who believed I could change. I'm not convinced I was wrong, the way I was before, but my priorities are different now.

Redemption's not what I'm talking about, though. I mean, I guess it depends if you think redemption is something you actually need or want.

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[identity profile] x-hammertime-x.livejournal.com 2009-06-07 05:14 am (UTC)(link)
Guess it all depends on whether you can learn from the past, huh?

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[identity profile] favoritetraitor.livejournal.com 2009-06-07 05:24 am (UTC)(link)
A sense of internal salvation, Lavi? Perhaps, yes... But when others are concerned, it tends to complicate matters...

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[identity profile] x-hammertime-x.livejournal.com 2009-06-07 05:30 am (UTC)(link)
Maybe so. But "those who cannot learn from history are destined to repeat it," yeah? So if you can keep from repeatin' your mistakes, you can move on from your past.

Too bad most people don't, though... [murmured, almost under his breath]

[identity profile] somekindofsin.livejournal.com 2009-06-07 05:40 am (UTC)(link)
...I suppose I should say that redemption is always possible, provided it's truly wanted. Well... and if the correct people are asked. I would like to think it's possible, although I suspect I know precisely why you're asking this.

[identity profile] favoritetraitor.livejournal.com 2009-06-07 06:14 am (UTC)(link)
And you'd be wrong, my friend. But... it does apply, doesn't it?

I think you're right, if it's truly wanted. Is there something that's been on your mind?
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[identity profile] somekindofsin.livejournal.com 2009-06-07 08:22 am (UTC)(link)
Oh, this and that. Blood-thirsty vampires and the like. Nothing terribly unusual!

[identity profile] hiscountess.livejournal.com 2009-06-07 07:31 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh, for God's sake, don't be so melodramatic, Goldsmith. If you want to choose another lifestyle and change the choices you have already made, go do it, there is no point to ask other people's opinions for validation of what you must do. This reeks to self-pity.

[identity profile] favoritetraitor.livejournal.com 2009-06-07 07:39 pm (UTC)(link)
I hardly think I'm being melodramatic, Sir Hellsing. Did I ever say I was referring to myself when I posed this 'philosophical' question? Perhaps you are remembering my momentary 'weakness' of the last curse too strongly...

What more can I do that I haven't already done? The things I've sacrificed...
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[identity profile] hiscountess.livejournal.com 2009-06-08 12:05 am (UTC)(link)
In my experience, most of these "philosophical" questions that claim no attachment to a personal situation often does. You are either struggling for forgiveness or to forgive, regardless if that's truth or not my statement stands. Looking for external niceties is seldom a way for atonement.

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